I certainly enjoyed spending this morning with Mr Steve Gilley, Mr Jimmy Davis, and their friend JJ. Steve is preparing to shoot in a long range[1000 yd] prone match in Tennessee on Aug. 30 and needed to determine dope on two different rifles and Mr Jimmy was not going to be out done so he brought a couple of rifles. Pretty amazing to see want these rifles and shooters can do at such a long distance. What I took from this morning: I shot a 6mmBR for a couple of years and shot it several times at 1000 yards. Steve had his 6mmBR and shoots several different load components. His dope was roughly 4 MOA different from what I was shooting. What I learned this morning: Numbers are specific to each rifle so spend the time and effort to know your own rifle and not rely on what someone else might say. WWE