Allen, good to hear from you. I will tell you like I told Mr. Gardner last week, ya’ll need to pack up and move south. He was saying how bad the wind had been blowing in PA. Here are my two cents on your post. For you long range shooters, the conditions are going to have as much or more effect than the load and for us slow shooters that will always be a factor. You mention RL15 and Varget. I was looking on Accurate Shooter yesterday at the equipment list for the IBS 2015 600 yard nationals and the dasher was a very popular choice and probably 90% were shooting these two powders. Realize that 1 to 2 inches at 600 yards is 1/4 moa which will be difficult to improve on when you factor in the distance and condition. As for a load, I recently shot a dasher at 1000 yards at Swainsboro, GA. with norma brass, CCI 450 primers, 105 precision ballistic custom bullets jumped .015 and 32.8 grains of Varget. I was fortunate to get in a shoot off. When they brought the target back, group size 5 1/2 inches, score 29 which tells me by the group size that the rifle shoots but because of the score the shooter knows very little about conditions. Lastly, I have found that all powders are somewhat temperature sensitive, so any load work that you are doing at the above temperatures will have to be adjusted as the weather warms up. Hope that your weather improves and I am sure that ‘The West Virginia Boys’ will get things worked out. There are other dashers down this way so maybe some of them will join in. Please keep us informed with the results of your shooting. WWE

• This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Wynne Echols.

Good to hear from you Allen. I don’t shoot a dasher but a 6Br and a 6.5×47. A powder that is often overlooked is Norma 203B. I have been shooting it for 2 years and prefer it over Varget. It is real close to RL 15 and some blogs say it’s the same powder in a different container! I have had good results with it. Powder Valley has it Sometimes!

Allen,

Good to hear that things are moving towards Spring in WV. They are a little slow in the NE but I think we may hit 70 this weekend. I have been shooting H-4895 in the Dasher with the PB 105’s with I believe 32.4 gn and CCI450. I will check on the load when I get home but that load seems to work pretty well.

See you in Willamsport..

Dave

Allen, Mr. Gardner has mentioned that he adjust his loads .1 grain for each 10 degrees of change. The info above says that you are on to something good. I hesitate to compare loads because of all of the variables[barrel length, primers, neck tension, jam vs jump, etc] You are definitely close. I remember you and me talking at the world open about taking a good aim before shooting. Shooting these small bullets well at 1000 yards must have a constant condition so the faster shooter should shoot smaller groups more often.

I recently witnessed an eye opening experience on the effects of the condition on the point of impact. A friend was here and we were going to try to hit a 10″ pie plate at a range of one mile. We put up a 6′ high X 8′ wide target backer at daylight when there was no[zero] noticeable wind. I was behind a big tree close to the target as the first shots were fired and knew the bullet was close, but I thought high. It turns out the elevation determined by the calculator was spot on[76 moa up from a 200 yard zero] but the condition[no noticeable wind] was moving the bullet over 4 feet[off the backer] I say this to say that if nothing is moving the bullet, a noticeable wind will really move the point of impact. Shoot ’em faster to try to get ’em all in the same condition. Keep us up to date on your progress. WWE

Allen,
The H-4895 load is 32.3 gm behind a Precision Ballistic 105, I am working up a load for the Eazor bullets.

Dave