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Last Saturday at the team match me and Mr. Allen got a chance to share our thoughts on a couple subjects. he open the door by asking me if I clean my barrel in between relays and I told him no that I felt like my gun shot a little better dirty he told me that he did and because I value his opinion I might try at a future match. then I ask him his opinion on cleaning the inside of bass necks he said that he did after each firing giving inside his neck a good cleaning and shared his procedure I shared with him that the latest fad on shooting forums was not clean and let the carbon build up act like a lubricant he looked at me and grinded and said I’ve read that but I don’t buy it. At that point in time me and Mr. Allen agreed with something that I read that Abraham Lincoln posted on the Internet being “ don’t believe everything you read on the Internet” lol. Most of my 45+ years of reloading I’ve done basically what Mr. Wynne discussed in his blog on the subject on this website basically use a nylon bore brush chucked up in a drill. A few months ago I tried the no clean necks on the 6BrX and was surprised to see that the bullets seated smoothly the groups were just as good, so I decided to try it on another project that I was working on a 223 and it Was a total disaster the dirty neck brass seating the bullets Felt like riding down the road going to Reese Bottom, were seating the bullets in the cleaned necks were somewhat smooth. The groups size of the clean brass were smaller than the groups shot dirty brass. The 223 is still in test mode and nowhere ready for match play. This just another support of my Philosophy in shooting that “one size don’t fit all” The main reason I wrote this article is because Mr. Wynne ask us to make use of his website. I realize the only reason most people come here is to register for the match or see the final result. I’m open to any comments on your thoughts on cleaning as long as they’re posted as a comment to this article that way Mr. Wynne will know that someone other than me looks at this site in between matches.
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Richard, thanks for posting this. At least we know that Richard I and Richard II had a positive conversation. I will share my experience dealing with fired brass. For several years I wet/stainless steel tumbled my fired brass in a Thumbler Tumbler before annealing. The brass came through the process shinny and squeeky clean. I mean pretty. At that time I was using the Century 21 hydraulic press to seat bullets and the seating pressure was often upwards of 100 lbs. which they ask you not to do. I tried powder graphite which helped some and even liquid graphite which actually bleed into the powder and some went poof trying to lower the seating pressure. I added a sizing mandrel to the process also which some say bends the necks. All in all I never seemed to be able to get a consistent lower seating pressure. Then I talked with a gentleman at the Shot Show three years ago that was supposed to know what he was talking about and he told me that they got the best results from taking fired brass and wiping the outside of the case with he did not say what, cleaning the primer pockets, annealing and then taking a nylon bore brush and spinning it inside the necks with a drill motor and then load. Annealing does not seem to affect the carbon left in the necks and my experience has been a lot less and more consistent seating pressure. There are obviously multiple ways to skin this cat but all I will say is that I have not thrown a piece of brass in the ditch behind the shed lately. WWE
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I don’t clean my brass except to wipe off the outside. New brass gets some graphite powder in the neck before seating a bullet. It’s easy to see how carbon on the inside of necks makes seating bullets smoother the hydro press and K&M arbor with force pack will show you every time. I have a accepts window and a sighter/fouler window I use when seating seems to be working pretty good.
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