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March 27, 2015 at 9:51 pm #2898
Wynne Echols
KeymasterA question or two for all of you good shooters. If you are developing a load for a bench rest rifle that you plan to shoot at 500 yards, how well would the rifle have to group for you to be satisfied with the load? 1 moa, 3/4 moa, 1/2 moa, 1/3 moa, etc? We all know that the stars line up occasionally, but what is realistic?
To have a successful mid range F-Class type gun, how well does it need to group to be acceptable? Opinions please, WWE
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March 27, 2015 at 11:20 pm #2901
Anonymous
InactiveWynne,
If it won’t shoot repeatable 1/4 moa at 200 we keep working on it, most time’s you can squeeze a bit better on a no wind day.
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March 28, 2015 at 9:35 am #2902
Wynne Echols
KeymasterMr Bob, I have heard it said that some of these longer bullets might not go to sleep at 200 yards. Would say a 1/3 moa at 400 yards be acceptable? Also, would you care to share a thing or two about what you might do to squeeze a bit better out of a load or rifle? Thank you for the information. WWE
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March 28, 2015 at 2:34 pm #2907
Anonymous
InactiveWynne,
I used to believe the sleep theory until a couple of year’s ago when Bryan Litz book’s came out and he started posting on accurate shooter. Not quite as true as we believed. Turn’s out my load’s were just not in tune as much as I thought. There are 100s of way’s to accomplish the voodoo it take’s for 1 hole shot after shot. Being a number’s guy I use the OBT theory of Chris Long with quickload and a chrony then prove or disprove it on a target to get started. For me it work’s, probably are better way’s. That said shooter’s down south are much better at reading conditions then up north for the most part. My ability to read the wind is 0, proven many time’s when beat by a fellow who bought his bullet’s that morning at Walmart. Sometimes my equipment overcomes, if only we can figure out both!
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March 28, 2015 at 5:06 pm #2908
Anonymous
InactiveIn point blank benchrest (100-200 yards) 1/4 Moa is a must to win but as the distance goes out to 500/600 yards it would be very hard to shoot 1/4 Moa consistently. 1″ to 1.25″ groups at those ranges are good days!
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June 7, 2015 at 5:39 pm #2977
Anonymous
InactiveBritt built me a 6 BR and my best group with it after about 800 rounds measured 1.437 at 500 yds, which is just a bit over 1/4 MOA. However, my average at 500 yds is more like 2.7. I suspect many things, including reloading techniques and materials, poor rear sandbag, poor eyesight, inability to read the wind, etc… Makes me wonder why I keep blowing my money up in smoke; but I love it. See you at the competitions.
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June 8, 2015 at 1:02 pm #2980
Brad Mitchell
ParticipantUnder an inch at 300 is my criteria. I can’t test any further.
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