December 6, 2020 at 7:55 pm #7382
When do you stop working on load development?
How do you decide your rifle is shooting the best it can?
At what point do loading practices stop showing gains and become busy work?
When do you stop adjusting stuff and simply work on shooting mechanics?
I like to work on load development early mornings at the local public range to beat the weekend crowd. I ran across another member this morning before church and we talked about the best way to keep improving.
I have noticed my scores over the last year are not as consistent as I would like them to be. One good group and one not so good. Good days and not so good days.
My thoughts are to just shoot the next couple of months and work on me. I’m going to stop chasing the smallest group and work on shooting all of them good.
December 6, 2020 at 9:55 pm #7383brett collinsParticipant
MR SCOTT I think that it’s some of both. a load that’s in tune one day may be off the next. I try to go shoot the weekend before a match and test my load. and I try to keep records of how a given load performs in a given temperature range. and a lot of things are out of my control. So for the most part I just work on me. that is why I do 85% of my shooting at 100 yards. at 100 yards you’re not so worried about trying to make a wind call you can just focus on technique and when you screw up it shows big time.
December 8, 2020 at 6:56 am #7384
Agreed Mr. Brett. I keep data as well which has got me to thinking.
I would much rather shoot two 1/2 moa groups than one 1/4 moa and one just moa.
December 8, 2020 at 2:44 pm #7385Richard SlatonParticipant
I’ve read that bench rest shooters can be some of the most anal people in any sport. And some’s goal is to be the most anal at the range they would rather out anal someone as to out shoot them. Now I believe in crossing my “t’s” and dot my “I’s” and have been called a belt and suspender kinda guy. I’m more of an if it feels good do it loader/shooter than trying to win Mr. Anal of the year award. My view and approach to reloading / shooter is different than most and I’m not the one in the winner’s circle each and every month so I’m not the one to answer Scott’s question I’m just giving my view take with a grain of salt. I’ve shot Contenders for over 40+ years bought/sold and traded barrels one thing I learn not all barrels are ”shooters” don’t waste your time and components trying to make them one. Send them to a new home. And don’t wear out a ½ MOA barrel trying to make it a ¼ MOA barrel with a ½ MOA shooter pulling the trigger.
“What’s good enough?” to me it’s a load/ combination that I have confidence in and that confidence is built not in one range trip but multiple range trips and matches. During the “load development” if I adjust 1/10 of a grain or the jump .001 whether it really helps or not if in my mind it does that’s what I’m going with. I’m a firm believer that Mental/confidence is 90% of this game.
When I’m done, am I done? Nope. Thing’s change different lot of powder, different batch of bullets. do I have a different load for every 5 degrees of temp change nope I’m not that anal. I normally have a it’s cold and an it’s hot load. Do I weigh primers? Nope I’m not that anal. Do I sort bullets? Somewhat for 1K shooting. Do I try to improve by all means do I strive for perfection, nope I’m not that anal. I do keep track of data I’ve years of Excel files with shooting data I’m probably anal about this
Mr. Wynne ask us to come to the match ready to compete. I try to put 100% effort in to doing that I am that anal.
Scott asks” what’s good enough” in reference to your load I’m taking a step farther When “I” show up on match day is what “I” bring to the table “good enough to compete”!! meaning
1.Is my gun, scope, load “good enough to compete”
2. Is my scope dope “good enough to compete” (if Mr. Wynne ask me to hit a plate from 100 yards to 1K could I dial it in with out someone having to show me how and hit that plate)
3 Is my mental preparation “Good enough to Compete”
On match day If the true answer to these 3 is yes then I’m loading my stuff and heading that way with the mindset that not only I’m I good enough to compete but good enough to win!
If those 3 things are “good enough to compete” Hopefully the match will not have to be delayed because of me and I won’t be the reason Mr. Wynne’s Blood pressure is at boiling point
I’m in the process of breaking in a new 6 BrX barrel and should take delivery of a new 223 barrel this month. I’ve got a couple months to get them “good enough to compete”
December 8, 2020 at 3:17 pm #7386
Awesome response mr. Richard, you have won the internet for the day.
I believe I have found the answer I was looking for
“Don’t waste a 1/2 moa barrel trying to make it a 1/4 moa barrel with a 1/2 moa shooter pulling the trigger”
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